目前是Stamp4,今年年底会开始申请归化。

想问一下这里有类似情况的朋友，

因为我是独生女，所以很希望可以让父母经常过来住住，我也可以尽孝道。

但是，目前的签证都是3个月一签。

有没有什么其他合适的签证，可以签半年？或者一年，几年的？

我知道英国好像有一种适合父母的签证，是要求65岁以上，并且证明完全不依靠政府福利的前提下。

有朋友说，爱尔兰也有类似的签证，是60岁，但是其他细节就不清楚了。

希望这边有了解情况的，或者有帮父母办过的朋友给点建议。

非常感谢！！！

what does 归化 means?

yup, there is such thing in ireland -retiring to ireland and self sufficiency
"Non-EEA nationals: citizens of certain non-EEA countries must apply for an entry visa before they travel to Ireland. You can find out if you need a visa to enter Ireland. When you have arrived in Ireland if you are not an EEA or Swiss national you must have permission to remain if you wish to stay for more than 3 months. If you are retiring to live in Ireland, you must be able to prove you have sufficient resources to support yourself and obtain permission to remain by registering with your local immigration registration officer following your arrival in Ireland. "
http://www.citizensinformation.i ... ired%20to%20ireland

"Self Sufficiency
All non-EEA nationals need permission to remain in the State.  Permission to remain will be in the form of an endorsement in your passport confirming the conditions and period of time for which you have permission to remain in the State.

Self Sufficiency
If you are a non visa required national coming to the State and are not economically active (other than a student) but intend to remain for longer than three months in the State, then you must be in a position to provide the following documents:

evidence of sufficient resources to cover your stay in the State without recourse to public funds, services or State benefits.  
evidence of private medical insurance to cover your stay in the State.
You must report to your local Immigration Officer with details of your future intentions and sufficient evidence of the above.

The above is not an exhaustive list, and you may be asked for additional documentation in support of your application.

Visa required nationals who are granted entry to the State on foot of a C Visa are not permitted to remain longer than the maximum period of 90 days. "
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000277

erm...i have not came across any case like that yet so i am not sure what exactly of evidence they are looking for.
apart from providing evidence of :
1)evidence of sufficient resources to cover your stay in the State without recourse to public funds, services or State benefits.  
2)evidence of private medical insurance to cover your stay in the State.

if i were you,  i would just provide as many support documents as possible to them, to explain why your parents want to retiring  to ireland-
1. you are their only child and you are here-show birth cert.
2.their health issue, you want to take care of them.
3.your have a full time job and income , well enough as their backup, so they wouldn't become government's burden...etc

above points are not evidence for them to examine your parents' application, but i'd say could be persuasive enough...
just give it ago and we'll see...

非常感谢shoye!!!!!

我就是一直找不到一个名录可以适合去申请。看来你的建议很有实践性。

我参考了英国的例子，想得几点跟你类似。

如果能证明父母过来，不依靠政府福利，他们也没打算在这边工作啊什么的，说穿了就是光来花钱不赚钱的，

再加上我是独生女，博得点同情分，我想应该可以一试。

不过，感谢你提醒我他们的健康证明，我当时没有多想这点。

shoye,那么是去哪里申请呢？是在中国的时候，就申请在爱尔兰退休这项？

我还没有看你给我的链接，呵呵，很激动，很感谢你！！！

我都在想，如果没有人知道，我就只好去找个律师帮忙了。

再次感谢你！！！

by the way, 照片是你的宝贝么？好可爱啊！！！

first of all,i presume that you are working visa holder since you said you are holding stamp 4,
2nd, how old are your parents?if you don't mind to tell.

i have rang up immigration council. and i briefly told her about your situation, she adviced me to ask your parents to apply the visa for Family Unification over the "self sufficiency"
she said even though the family unification(dependents visa) is initially designed for spouse or children to join permit holders, but it could be used for other family members.
it depends on how well you have prepared for them to believe you that you are well enough to support your parents financially. she kept mentioning your financial ability is the main thing for the decision made.
1) they need to apply the dependent visa in irish embassy in china before they arrive in ireland. she strongly insist that don not apply visitor visa.
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/N ... lication%20Form.pdf

2)you have to provide your invitation letter to your parents and an employment letter-with all the details ie job position, salary,with or without bonus...etc,your passport copies, GNIB card copy, you irish proof address, bank statement, criminal record in ireland (i suggest) ( you can obtain that in GARDA Station. fee could be applicable)...all documents to proof that you are financially stable.

3) birth certificates- to proof the relationship between you with your parents.

4) your mum and dad need to apply the visa individually. providing their financial records is a must. this show that they are not only depending you but also self suffiency. if they have a house in china, perhaps they could try to put the house on sale and get a statement from estate agencies to show to the "decision maker" that your parents are determined to come and live with you. (personally i don't think is necessary to do that but it could help!)
you need to provide them the information about where you are going to accommodate your parents when they arrive here..

5) your parents medical/ health insurance.

erm...thats all i can remember of the conversation over the phone. she said no one will know your parents will be granted the visa or not apart from the decision maker in department of justice.all you have to do, is try your hardest and provide all the info your can to PERSUADE them.

Cutexzy, this is a long way and it is not easy to achieve.do not think you can get it done within 1,2  days. be patient, confident and well prepared.immigration council is willing and love to assist you if you want to write any cover letters to declare yourself better to the government, just go to meet them in person.they are very nice.
but she told me the immigration council is "off" til 1st july(if i am not mistaken).don't hesitate to contact them.

it is unnecessary to look for a solicitor or any sort of immigration consultancy and pay a huge amount of money. things can be done by ourselves. all the informations needed are provided by us, the decision is made by the department , what a solicitor could contribute is perhaps they can make calls to department of justice asking the decison for you all the time when you are working.

no matter what is the outcome, at least you have tried your hardest and no one could blame you on this.
good luck

[ 本帖最后由 shoye 于 2008-6-20 02:59 编辑 ]

ahh...she is my niece.she is cute , isn't she?

if unfortunately your parents have health issue, and they need to be taken care of, get a letter from their doctor as one of your support documents as you have to take care of them
if your parents are retired, i would say the chances are even higher.
GOOD LUCK...

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原帖由 shoye 于 2008-6-20 04:33 发表
if unfortunately your parents have health issue, and they need to be taken care of, get a letter from their doctor as one of your support documents as you have to take care of them
if your parents are ...

Very bad advice. This letter will be a full stop to the visa officer. If somebody is ill, you need get treatments from medical professionals in the hospital not daughter/son at home. Please don’t mislead people by your Chinese way of thinking.



[ 本帖最后由 托尼_大连 于 2008-6-20 05:24 编辑 ]

i don't think so...as long as they have medical insurance to cover and supported finacially by who ever is taking the responsibility. and not depending on irish government for any helps. there is nothing to hide for.  i know there is a person who has health issue and got a dependent visa to his relative in ireland. and one of the main reason he got granted beacuse he has health issue and has to depend on his relative. he even been required to obtain a doctor's letter to prove them his health problem.

if some one's family member is disabled, will they be rejected in ireland because they are disabled? children and disabled person always come first in ireland.

if  some one has a health issue, he/she needs to pay to visit for local doctors, specialists even personal nursing assistant..paying for prescriptions,drugs...he/she is creating some sort of...erm..."career opportunity" to the local community...wondering why has it become a negative point towards locals?

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原帖由 托尼_大连 于 2008-6-20 05:05 发表


Very bad advice. This letter will be a full stop to the visa officer. If somebody is ill, you need get treatments from medical professionals in the hospital not daughter/son at home. Please don’t m ...

my chinese way of thinking?? so, if some one's parents are sick, and they have been sent to hospital to get treatment, don't their children want to be their side to support and comfort them, or just leave them in the hospital will be enough? especially when there is only one child in the family.
Paying for their doctor fees is just not the only way of taking care of them.

plus when i said health issue, it doesn't mean that the person is dying or need to stay in hospital all the time.
it can be something minor, but still need to be aware of, like diabetes ,high blood pressure,mental health...they don't need to be in hospital everyday , but their family members must stay alert with their sickness symptoms.

you are persuading government that your parents need to be taken care of  and you have to take care of them. it is nothing to be ashame of and it's not wrong if you want to take care of your sick parents. so there is nothing to hide from them.

if they allow people retiring to ireland, i assume it would be around 60-65 of age, do you think the government will expect all these retired people are 100% healthy without any health issue? if those elderly are sick, i don't think the immigration officer would think that they still able to work in ireland without a permit.
Don't you think those elderly are easier to get through custom without being questioned much while those middle age one always got trapped with alot of questionings?

i gave my opinion and views. whether or no that is a fact sheet or a misleading statement, she would need to find that out herself. i am no visa officer. i thought i can lend her a hand.thats all.

[ 本帖最后由 shoye 于 2008-6-21 05:55 编辑 ]